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Are you tired of the same old political discussions dominating your news feed? Look no further than 'Beyond Politics' - a Telegram channel dedicated to going deeper into the issues that matter most. Whether you're a seasoned political junkie or just looking to expand your knowledge, this is the place for you

'Beyond Politics' is a meeting place for subscribers who are passionate about exploring topics beyond the traditional left vs. right debates. Our community comes together to discuss a wide range of issues, from social justice and environmental policy to international relations and economic theory. With diverse perspectives and a commitment to respectful dialogue, you're sure to find engaging conversations that will challenge and inspire you

Led by the dynamic duo of dezzandlauren, this channel is more than just a place to stay informed - it's a space for intellectual growth and collaboration. By joining 'Beyond Politics,' you'll have access to exclusive content, live discussions, and opportunities to connect with like-minded individuals who share your curiosity and passion for learning

So why limit yourself to surface-level political debates when you can go 'Beyond Politics' and delve into the heart of the issues that shape our world? Join us today and be part of a community that believes in the power of knowledge and dialogue to foster positive change. Together, we can break free from the constraints of traditional thinking and explore new perspectives that challenge the status quo. Welcome to 'Beyond Politics' - where the conversation goes beyond the headlines and into the heart of what truly matters. 🌌

Beyond Politics

06 Feb, 20:05

The power grid is so tight that the refuelling shutdown of Koeberg Unit 1, that was scheduled for tomorrow, was now moved out till the 17th of Jan 2025.
The Eskom grid is under severe strain. The public may not see load shedding but industry is seeing it every day.
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Beyond Politics

06 Feb, 16:55

We will be moving the Community Members live chat to Monday evening at 20h30 due to SONA. See you then.
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Beyond Politics

06 Feb, 07:47

The death spiral of this financial system economy will continue if government does not learn how to govern properly. What are the chances of that happening? Luckily SA has a strong people's or informal economy very separate from the Rothschild created economic system.
https://youtu.be/16uJj1i64AA
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Beyond Politics

05 Feb, 07:44

The people of SA will be sold to the highest bidder in the name of safety, security and equal right. The so called GNU comprises of a two party setup as can be seen with this "settlement" on NHI. No discussion on where the money will come from.
https://youtu.be/n3P3Trq7xAA
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Beyond Politics

04 Feb, 07:41

Please share our last video. It is doing much better than we expected. Something is clearly changing in people's minds. With your help we can turn this topic into a broader public debate. Liking and sharing and commenting helps to get more people to see the thumbnail.
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Beyond Politics

04 Feb, 06:43

There is a glorious opportunity for citizens to have their say in changing our electoral system, but it seems like government doesn't want you to know about it!

https://youtu.be/mLyHR2dTzlU?si=HDaKX_k9AsKMuYYl
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03 Feb, 07:01

The inconvenient Truth escapes most people as easy convenient lies are historically preferred.
https://youtu.be/r9mcNKKVOiU
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03 Feb, 06:51

I am putting out a special edition video this morning. Please watch to the end and share with as many people as possible. I will probably be attacked the most because of this video.
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01 Feb, 15:45

I am being bitterly attacked for telling the truth. People do not like the truth. I often ask why I take this abuse and why Lauren takes the abuse. We absolutely do not have to.
We do it for our children in the end.
Thanks to those that are willing to listen and prepare for all eventualities.
As I always say. The truth is often far worse than the lie.
People would rather believe lies because the truth is too untenable.
Eskom is in serious trouble. Eskom is NOT ok.
Nothing is being done to make Eskom ok.
Things are only being patched over.
We are in for extremely difficult times leading up to 2030.
It is part of a decades old plan.
People do NOT want to believe this.
They must just live with the consequences.
Thanks to those who do listen to the end and do what it takes to be self reliant.
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Beyond Politics

01 Feb, 07:54

For anyone interested in the raw truth about Eskom Load Shedding.
https://youtu.be/t9kgEyhe8PE
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Beyond Politics

31 Jan, 13:48

Stage 3 load shedding from 5pm today.
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31 Jan, 10:48

The government wants to make electricity supply a priority, but refuse to do what is necessary. Loadshedding is on the horizon yet again.

https://youtu.be/aC6AhJJ8Y-Y
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Beyond Politics

31 Jan, 10:46

Please watch our video covering this urgent warning.
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30 Jan, 18:26

See you all at 20H30 in the Community Members Live Chat.
https://youtube.com/live/IVF57oTlWyE?feature=share
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30 Jan, 17:58

The Community Members Live chat will start at 20H30pm tonight. See you then.
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Beyond Politics

30 Jan, 10:30

Are you aware that Banks can take over your property literally while you are away on holiday.
Real life story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILymenESdrM
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Beyond Politics

30 Jan, 06:22

The Interactive Members Zoom meeting was loaded to view on YouTube. Thanks to the more than 40 members that attended the unique meeting where we discussed a document from 1991 wrt world control plans by elite players and how they influenced politics in South Africa. Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/7QOWRyqGrTg
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Beyond Politics

30 Jan, 04:33

https://x.com/00Dezz/status/1884822043843076182
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Beyond Politics

29 Jan, 18:00

See you in the Interactive Zoom. The link was posted in the Interactive Community Tab on YouTube.
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29 Jan, 14:29

Remember our Interactive Members Zoom meeting tonight at 8pm. See you then to discuss the document.
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29 Jan, 13:46

Article related to latest video.
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29 Jan, 13:45

This is an unacceptable and disgraceful situation. We need a new governance and electoral system urgently.
https://youtu.be/L30xpnjX4s8
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Beyond Politics

21 Jan, 08:06

At this stage, our behavior and choices still have the power to change the future. Digital baking is convenient, however it is imperative to hold onto the freedom to have the option to use cash if you care about your individual liberty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV2C4-u02DY
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17 Jan, 08:00

As the values of society change, it is imperative that we take on the responsibility to speak out against anything that threatens freedom. Here is a scary survey that highlights the political desires of millennials in 15 countries, including South Africa.
https://youtu.be/alwLJfCx-3I
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Beyond Politics

16 Jan, 18:00

See you in the Community Members Live chat at 8.
https://youtube.com/live/SA_w6ieURvs?feature=share
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16 Jan, 10:19

South Africans cannot afford this! The government seems intent on destroying this country with every decision they make. The true cost of NHI is broken down here and its very frightening!

https://youtu.be/1gMV7JGRNd4
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Beyond Politics

15 Jan, 07:36

Does South Africa have the resources and energy to accommodate the infrastructure required by 4th Industrial Revolution-aligned policies and changes?

https://youtu.be/STKppI7K9uI?si=Z6tmHQRvINKWRCo-
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14 Jan, 07:52

The world is hurtling faster and faster towards the full implementation of the 4th Industrial Revolution. South Africa is trying its best to keep up. Many see the digitization of government services as progress but we see it as empowering the government and tech corporations with more control over all of us.

https://youtu.be/PQ9mQa3enkU?si=zkje2dtW4FMzzGnf
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Beyond Politics

10 Jan, 05:01

Think about what will happen in SA if we experience the same due to fire in the current political climate.
https://youtu.be/OQbTeE2h4HM
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09 Jan, 17:57

See you all in the Community Member Live Chat at 8pm.
https://youtube.com/live/X6us4oFyuR0?feature=share
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09 Jan, 08:45

There will be nowhere to run or hide once the new digital IDs are in place.

https://youtu.be/HhGMQRRN3RU
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08 Jan, 07:54

This is outrageous, especially some of the comments to the article. Maybe it is time this surveillance is tested in court.
https://youtu.be/OCEK4luvht8
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Beyond Politics

07 Jan, 08:37

Good day everyone. We hope you all had some well deserved rest. Please watch and share this very important video topic for today. Please also make an effort to investigate the links provided. We hope you have an awesome day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2HFdG-XX7I&t=12s
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Beyond Politics

02 Jan, 18:04

See you in the community members live chat at 8.
https://youtube.com/live/bSbpbyFVcwo?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

02 Jan, 11:51

In our next presentation we will be reviewing how our world has changed in the last 5 years. Since the pandemic, a lot has happened, and we will be exploring how "normal life" has transformed with regard to pandemic-response, artificial intelligence, global conflicts, digitization and shock events. The global population has become accustomed to a certain level of chaos since 2020, and its important to process and take in these changes so that we can plan for the future accordingly. As a bonus, we will end with discussing what we anticipate for 2025.

This presentation will be R100 per person. Please email [email protected] to confirm your booking. 

Banking details:
Capitec Savings | Beyond Politics | 167 818 2174 | BC 470010
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Beyond Politics

02 Jan, 11:51

Hello all. Our website is finally live!!! http://beyondpolitics.co.za/

And

Our first presentation this year is on the 9th of Feb:
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Beyond Politics

02 Jan, 10:19

Please remember to join us tonight at 8pm for the Community Members Live Chat. So much to talk about. See you then.
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Beyond Politics

01 Jan, 18:39

MSM preparing the US citizens for war with China. Xi preparing Chinese citizens for war with US. This is a narrative being prepared. We hope the people of both countries are not fooled by the committee plans and speak out against any form of war.
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01 Jan, 17:45

Once again people were not allowed to help victims in the New Orleans Shock event that took place today. We have mentioned that this "greater good" excuse will become commonplace as these events unfold.
Many people are traumatized because they were trained and not allowed to help those still alive.
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Beyond Politics

31 Dec, 19:34

Gas is considered cleaner than coal. Gas and AI will be the main currencies that decide the fate of the world from 2025.
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Beyond Politics

31 Dec, 19:27

Russia and Iran has the worlds 1st and 2nd largest natural gas reserves. World politics has never been about human rights. Both those countries have $30 Trillion worth in reserves, almost the full US deficit. If you add the number 3 and 4 countries Saudi Arabia and Qatar you add another $15 Trillion.
Always think further than the MSM.
The US is only at number 6 in the world with $4 Trillion in known reserves.
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31 Dec, 08:50

Our economy has lost over 10000MW since 1992 in business. If you consider that we should have been at 48000mw consumption during peak and we are now at half that it is actually much worse. The public may not experience load shedding right now but our economy is paying the price of not having had the capacity to expand when we needed to.
From 2025 the reality will bite hard. This is not only about load shedding. The story is much wider.
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Beyond Politics

31 Dec, 07:45

Koeberg Unit 2 was synchronized to the National Power grid at 4pm yesterday afternoon. Both Koeberg units are now supplying power to the grid.
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Beyond Politics

30 Dec, 12:10

https://youtu.be/-zT2tPfS2b8
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Beyond Politics

19 Dec, 18:06

See you in the member community live chat.
https://youtube.com/live/zNwlUYnYAG0?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

19 Dec, 09:00

See you all tonight at 7pm for this important public Live Stream followed by our Community Members Live Chat at 8pm.
https://youtube.com/live/eMuy-Rk9EM0?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

19 Dec, 07:27

Redefining levels of homelessness!
Something you should seriously be thinking about.
https://youtu.be/xZvIYUFpgEA
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Beyond Politics

16 Dec, 07:26

Good day everyone. We placed more info updates for the Interactive members in the YouTube community tab. Please note that it is FYI only. Please also read the pinned and other comments.
I will provide more broad information to the public when the information is on MSM.
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Beyond Politics

15 Dec, 07:43

Hello everyone. We have another Poll. Please share this link so we can get as many people as possible to take part and please leave a comment below. In the past we had thousands of people take part in our polls and we hope to bring you many more in future.
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxQOclpUFJeSrsO54zCJPiDhoicuwnSBSY
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Beyond Politics

15 Dec, 07:01

Good morning everyone. I have placed important info for the Interactive members in the YouTube community tab. Please use the info responsibly. Thanks.
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14 Dec, 17:42

People have been taken for a fool again by the organizations and parties they worship.
As we mentioned before, regulations can be changed at a whim. People are a special kind of stupid to fall for this eye blinding.
https://www.news24.com/news24/politics/bela-act-wont-be-amended-but-regulations-will-address-contentious-sections-say-insiders-20241214
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Beyond Politics

14 Dec, 15:46

Insanity setting in. Pack mentality taking over.
https://youtu.be/X1uPWs5Lkqc
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Beyond Politics

13 Dec, 16:56

Update on the Matla Power Station Incident. It has now been confirmed to have been a high pressure steam line rupture and the 9 injured received steam burn injuries with one person being critical and another two being semi critical but all stable at this stage.
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12 Dec, 21:42

My thoughts are with the staff at Matla Power Station. This is an extremely serious event and I am looking forward to more information as it becomes available. Our thoughts are with those injured and their families.
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Beyond Politics

12 Dec, 18:02

Ready to start the Community Members Live at 8pm.
https://youtube.com/live/zPsCa2KO7Ic?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

12 Dec, 06:06

Please like and share!
The Iranian drone Mothership claim is extremely significant.
This is clearly a mess. The people will trust their government less and the government will have more reason to control the freedom of the people. Tell us in the comments what you think is happening here.
https://youtu.be/x9NQh9ivdeM
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Beyond Politics

11 Dec, 17:56

The Interactive Zoom link was posted in the Youtube Community Tab. See you at 8pm.
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11 Dec, 15:52

Please remember that the Interactive Members Zoom will take place tonight at 8pm.
I am sure that it will be most informative.
The link will be placed in the Interactive Members Community Tab on YouTube just before 8pm.
See you then.
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Beyond Politics

10 Dec, 11:34

Please have your say in the comments. Are you willing to lose all your privacy?
https://youtu.be/3AoGH062RVE
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09 Dec, 09:48

Do you trust the electoral reform panel?
We will expose some of the inner workings in the near future and how we believe this is just another eye blind. They will not stop us in our resolve to have our representatives directly elected.
https://youtu.be/N8px-Oq3Th4
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Beyond Politics

09 Dec, 08:27

Linked to this mornings video.
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09 Dec, 08:27

This video is immediately available to channel members and will be available to the public from 11H45.
The Electoral Reform panel is a whitewash as we suspected all along. That only means we need to place huge pressure on them and continue advocating for electoral system change so we can directly elect our leaders and hold them accountable.
https://youtu.be/N8px-Oq3Th4
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Beyond Politics

08 Dec, 18:51

This video is completely AI generated and there are numerous versions. The Norwegian giant owl has also taken over Instagram and Tiktok. AI is spreading fake vids fast and so many people are fooled. Be aware please.
AI is clever. Super clever.
https://youtube.com/shorts/58sK0T7CjMM?si=hRhtGafzTeOSrIA0
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Beyond Politics

07 Dec, 20:02

Hi Everyone. To those who booked for tomorrow's workshop, the link has been emailed to you. If you have not yet received it, please email [email protected] 🙂
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Beyond Politics

05 Dec, 20:02

Thanks to the more than 100 members that joined our lively Members Community Live Chat this evening, The topics were broad and fascinating. Thanks for all your contributions in the chat and your continued support.
https://youtube.com/live/7yyDaxpIB48?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

05 Dec, 17:24

See you Live at 8pm.
https://youtube.com/live/7yyDaxpIB48?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

05 Dec, 17:13

Looking forward to the Community Members Live Chat tonight at 8pm. See you all there.
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05 Dec, 10:36

The parties in Parliament want your Tax money and more money from controlling families, but they do not want you to know about it.
How 2 families can run a country with their money and clearly others want in.
https://youtu.be/_tW9yJxDvnw
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Beyond Politics

05 Dec, 08:39

Good morning all. This video is available for member and will be open to the public from 12 this afternoon. Please like and share the link. Thanks again for all your support.
https://youtu.be/_tW9yJxDvnw
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Beyond Politics

02 Dec, 17:20

Hello Everyone. Join us for this public Live stream starting soon.
https://youtube.com/live/btf6t-PpyxA?feature=share
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02 Dec, 17:12

Community Members Live Chat link for 8pm.
https://youtube.com/live/sB-NuxS6MHE?feature=share
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02 Dec, 16:59

We will start the public live at around 7H20.
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02 Dec, 09:32

Hello all.
We will be doing a public Live Stream tonight at 7:20PM followed by the Community Members Live chat at 8pm.
See you then.
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01 Dec, 07:28

Donald Trump being an idiot. I cannot believe that Biden and Trump is the best the US has to offer. Tells us a lot.
"The idea that the BRICS Countries are trying to move away from the Dollar while we stand by and watch is OVER. We require a commitment from these Countries that they will neither create a new BRICS Currency, nor back any other Currency to replace the mighty U.S. Dollar or, they will face 100% Tariffs, and should expect to say goodbye to selling into the wonderful U.S. Economy. They can go find another “sucker!” There is no chance that the BRICS will replace the U.S. Dollar in International Trade, and any Country that tries should wave goodbye to America."
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29 Nov, 11:21

Related to last video.
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29 Nov, 11:20

This is seriously shocking on all fronts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIddXDk7ook
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Beyond Politics

28 Nov, 18:07

Hi all. To the community channel members, we will be postponing tonight's livestream til Monday the 2nd of Dec.
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Beyond Politics

27 Nov, 17:12

New link
https://youtube.com/live/tTgW1J3iLHY?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

27 Nov, 16:43

The studio is ready for the Live Stream at 7pm. I hope you join us as we discuss probably the most important development of this century.
https://youtube.com/live/NTU-5C_3HpU?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

27 Nov, 14:26

It will be great to see many of you in this important Public Live Stream at 7PM tonight.
https://youtube.com/live/NTU-5C_3HpU?feature=share
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27 Nov, 09:54

Hi everyone. There will be a public live stream tonight at 7pm. The Topic will be on WW3 talk and dissecting the threat of future use of Nuclear weapons.
A lot will be unpacked. Our Interactive Members Zoom will follow at 8pm.
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27 Nov, 07:07

Thanks to all the channel members that commented on the video link yesterday in the community tab. The learning required from this exercise is super important. The threat has escalated and we do not think that anyone has determined the full scope of what is happening. Please follow the link below and comment.
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxt_yyRptuI0szkE2_-FiNS9oRtoJXXAqY
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Beyond Politics

09 Nov, 20:13

Good day everyone. For those that booked for the Workshop tomorrow. Please prepare for 3 hours minimum. It could take longer. The recording will be made available to everyone afterwards.
We will be having a robust discussion so come with the shy button switched off.
See you all tomorrow at 15H00.
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07 Nov, 20:49

Hi everyone. This is getting serious. We need smaller government. Most of the money is going to bloated government. They are not paying bills but expect you to do so. Be aware and be prepared.
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07 Nov, 17:48

See you tonight in the Community Members Live Chat at 8pm.
https://youtube.com/live/s69pm7hn4F4?feature=share
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05 Nov, 20:15

We will talk about this soon.
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05 Nov, 14:06

https://youtu.be/yNoJycRtu08
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01 Nov, 07:31

Thanks to the Community Members that joined us for our live chat last night. Below is the link to the recording.
https://youtube.com/live/m1faEIDioZg?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

01 Nov, 06:56

Thanks to many of you that booked for this workshop. Bookings will be open till tomorrow after which you will get the Zoom link.
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Beyond Politics

31 Oct, 18:03

We have started the community members live chat at 8.
https://youtube.com/live/m1faEIDioZg?feature=share
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31 Oct, 07:46

https://youtu.be/Ttkm-p4XNFs
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31 Oct, 05:42

Thanks to the more than 50 members that joined us for last nights Interactive Zoom meeting. Please see the recording link below. The community comments are in the pinned comment below. There are links you can follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLtc_vi9Xq4
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30 Oct, 17:28

We will be doing our Interactive Zoom Meeting at 8pm tonight. The Zoom link will be sent to the Beyond Politics YouTube Community Tab. See you there.
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30 Oct, 09:00

https://youtu.be/wT1eDv5HD6Y
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Beyond Politics

25 Oct, 08:53

https://youtu.be/1KVdEY0oY7g
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Beyond Politics

25 Oct, 05:38

A workshop you do NOT want to miss: Counter-Propaganda, Counter-Intelligence and Counter-Invasion.

3 November | 3pm-5pm

Limited space because of the workshop format. To book email [email protected].
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Beyond Politics

24 Oct, 18:18

Hello Everyone. Let's try this again. Here is link number 2!

https://youtube.com/live/uv96RwkaKFw?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

24 Oct, 17:48

Hello Everyone. Here's the link for the member's live happening tonight at 8pm.

https://youtube.com/live/u7fiqRKbPwY?feature=share
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22 Oct, 10:24

https://youtu.be/QnBzcxhu-B8
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21 Oct, 07:25

https://youtu.be/E-D7XHc6-4E
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18 Oct, 10:50

Hello everyone. Please find the link below to the members community live chat recording from last night. Enjoy.
https://youtube.com/live/DM4t-hAeGIo?feature=share
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17 Oct, 17:40

See you now in our public Live Stream.
https://youtube.com/live/chrmxI-oAKs?feature=share
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14 Oct, 10:55

https://youtu.be/nRTHfYNbWOw
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10 Oct, 18:18

New Live link.
https://youtube.com/live/ksCOnpS2Gko?feature=share
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10 Oct, 17:37

See all the Community Members live at 8. Looking forward to seeing you all there.
https://youtube.com/live/-cTWlzO7v24?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

05 Oct, 12:17

Hi everyone

For those who have booked for tomorrow's presentation, the link has been sent.

If you have NOT received the link then please email [email protected] with your proof of payment. A few payments were received with NO name and NO email.

See you tomorrow 😀
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Beyond Politics

04 Oct, 20:09

Thanks to those that have already booked for this important presentation. We are so looking forward to bringing you this information from our perspective.
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04 Oct, 17:57

See you now in the community members live chat at 8pm.
https://youtube.com/live/QXfEKj6Ekrc?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

03 Oct, 18:00

We have to postpone tonight's Members Community live stream to tomorrow night at 8pm. We hope to see you then.
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02 Oct, 10:59

Stick to the Basics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Oq9JNhW7_k
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26 Sep, 19:51

please comment
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26 Sep, 19:51

https://www.dha.gov.za/index.php/statements-speeches/1804-the-electoral-reform-consultation-panel-calls-for-public-submissions
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26 Sep, 18:38

Join us now for the community members live chat.
https://youtube.com/live/hELlo9uA8ss?feature=share
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26 Sep, 17:57

We will be starting the members Live at 20H30 today. See you then.
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26 Sep, 06:13

My comment on the UN assembly PACT.
https://x.com/00Dezz/status/1839186319722844418
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25 Sep, 21:42

Thanks to everyone that joined us for this groundbreaking Interactive meeting. For the first time it feels that we are starting to use the gathering to its full potential. Thank you for your contributions.
https://youtu.be/ZH2zIfRyDl4
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Beyond Politics

25 Sep, 17:48

We will be posting the Interactive Members Zoom Meeting link in the YouTube Community Tab soon. See you there at 8pm.
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24 Sep, 17:41

See you at 8pm
https://youtube.com/live/OYoVF4uIhCU?feature=share
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Beyond Politics

24 Sep, 16:34

We will see all the community members in the Live Stream at 8pm tonight. We have something super important to make you all aware of.
We arrived back from Sasolburg via the Northern Cape two hours ago.
See you soon.
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19 Sep, 17:26

Hi All. Tonight's live stream will be moved to next week Tuesday 8pm. After a long 10 hour drive, and a weekend full of athletics, we will rather give you our undivided attention when we are back home, especially with the very important topics we need to discuss.
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