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The IWW is a member-run union for all workers, a union dedicated to organizing on the job, in our industries and in our communities.

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IWW - The Industrial Workers of the World (English)

The Industrial Workers of the World, also known as the IWW, is a member-run union for all workers. It is a union that is dedicated to organizing on the job, in our industries, and in our communities. The IWW believes in the power of solidarity and collective action to improve working conditions and fight for the rights of all workers. This Telegram channel, @wobbliechannel, serves as a platform for IWW members and supporters to connect, share information, and discuss important issues related to labor rights and social justice.

Although this channel is not an official account, it provides valuable insights into the work of the IWW and the broader labor movement. By joining this channel, you can stay updated on upcoming events, campaigns, and initiatives organized by the IWW. You can also engage in discussions with like-minded individuals who are passionate about creating a more fair and equitable society for all.

If you are someone who cares about workers' rights and wants to be part of a community that is dedicated to fighting for economic justice, then @wobbliechannel is the place for you. Join us today and be part of the movement towards a better, more just world for all workers.

IWW

06 Feb, 21:40


Socialism is when free stuff.
America is the land of the free! Free stuff!

IWW

03 Feb, 16:36


The idea of a free market economy where all businesses are worker cooperatives—and whether such a system (often called market socialism)—could work is a topic of significant debate. Let’s break this down:

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### 1. Can All Businesses Be Cooperatives in a Free Market?
A cooperative economy would mean replacing traditional capitalist firms (owned by shareholders) with worker-owned cooperatives, where employees democratically control the business and share profits. Here’s the case for and against:

#### Arguments For
- Feasibility:
- Existing Examples: Worker cooperatives like Spain’s Mondragon Corporation (a federation of 260+ cooperatives with 80,000+ workers) and Italy’s Emilia-Romagna region (where 30% of GDP comes from cooperatives) show cooperatives can thrive in competitive markets.
- Resilience: Studies suggest cooperatives often have higher productivity, lower turnover, and greater stability during crises (e.g., the 2008 recession).
- Ethical Incentives: Worker-owners have a direct stake in the firm’s success, aligning incentives for innovation and efficiency.

- Market Compatibility:
- Cooperatives can compete in free markets, setting prices, responding to demand, and reinvesting profits. Markets need not disappear—they’d just operate within a framework of worker ownership.

#### Challenges
- Capital Acquisition:
- Cooperatives often struggle to raise external investment, as traditional investors seek equity ownership and high returns. Solutions like "non-voting shares" or cooperative banks (e.g., Italy’s Banca Popolare) could help, but scaling this globally is untested.
- Startups in high-risk sectors (e.g., tech) might face hurdles without venture capital’s risk-tolerant model.

- Scalability and Decision-Making:
- Large cooperatives require complex democratic governance, which can slow decision-making. Mondragon mitigates this with hybrid structures (e.g., elected managers), but critics argue this risks recreating hierarchies.
- Industries requiring rapid innovation (e.g., AI, biotech) might struggle with consensus-driven models.

- Systemic Barriers:
- Legal and financial systems in capitalist economies favor traditional corporate structures. Transitioning to a cooperative economy would require rewriting corporate law, tax codes, and financial regulations.

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### 2. Can Market Socialism Work?
Market socialism combines worker ownership with market competition, rejecting both central planning and capitalist ownership. Key features:
- Worker-Owned Firms: Employees control workplaces democratically.
- Markets for Goods/Services: Prices are set by supply and demand, not state planners.
- Social Welfare and Regulation: Strong safety nets, antitrust laws, and environmental regulations prevent market excesses.

#### Case Studies and Models
- Yugoslavia’s Experiment (1950s–1980s):
- Practiced "worker self-management" in a market framework. Initially successful (high growth, reduced inequality), but later collapsed due to debt, ethnic tensions, and inefficiencies.
- Lessons: Worker control alone isn’t sufficient without macroeconomic stability, democratic institutions, and checks on bureaucracy.

- Modern Examples:
- Mondragon, Spain: Thrives in manufacturing, finance, and education, balancing competition with solidarity (e.g., wage ratios capped at 6:1).
- Kerala, India: A mix of cooperatives, public sector, and private firms in a regulated market, achieving high human development indicators.

- Theoretical Models:
- David Schweickart’s "Economic Democracy": Combines worker cooperatives, public control of investment (via a capital assets tax), and markets. Profits fund public goods and new cooperatives.
- Richard Wolff’s "Workers’ Self-Directed Enterprises": Similar to Schweickart but emphasizes workplace democracy over state intervention.

IWW

03 Feb, 16:36


#### Criticisms of Market Socialism
- Innovation and Risk: Critics argue cooperatives may avoid high-risk/high-reward ventures (e.g., SpaceX, mRNA vaccines) due to collective risk aversion.
- Market Failures: Markets alone don’t solve inequality, environmental harm, or monopolies—strong state regulation is still needed.
- Transition Challenges: Moving from capitalism to market socialism would face resistance from entrenched corporate and financial interests.

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### 3. Could It Work? Conditions for Success
For a cooperative-dominated market socialism to function, several conditions would likely be necessary:
1. Legal/Financial Infrastructure:
- Laws prioritizing worker buyouts, cooperative formation, and democratic governance.
- Public or cooperative banks to provide low-interest loans to worker-owned firms.
2. Cultural Shift:
- Education in cooperative management and democratic decision-making.
- Shift in values from profit-maximization to collective well-being.
3. Hybrid Models:
- Allow small private firms (e.g., family businesses) while ensuring large enterprises are worker-owned.
- Use markets for consumer goods but plan essential services (healthcare, utilities).
4. Global Coordination:
- Address capital flight and sanctions by building international alliances (e.g., cooperative trade networks).

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### Conclusion
Yes, market socialism is theoretically viable, as evidenced by successful cooperatives and regional models. However, scaling it to an entire economy would require:
- Overcoming systemic barriers (e.g., access to capital).
- Balancing democratic governance with efficiency.
- Strong state support for cooperative ecosystems.

The biggest hurdles are political and cultural, not economic. Capitalism’s dominance is reinforced by power structures resistant to democratizing workplaces. Yet, experiments in worker ownership (e.g., Maine’s recent "right to own" laws) suggest incremental steps toward market socialism are possible.

In short: Cooperatives can thrive in markets, but transforming capitalism into market socialism demands radical restructuring of laws, finance, and social values.

-Deepseek on market socialism

IWW

26 Jan, 21:14


https://electrek.co/2025/01/25/uaw-scores-supermajority-at-blueoval-sk-in-2025s-first-big-labor-win/

IWW

26 Jan, 14:43


When "Second thought" started to do breadtube content the Internet left was surprized, but now it's possible to bring also "ColdFusion" on our side? He's making some content that makes you think that he is headed towards that direction, like he collaborated with "Our Changing Climate" for a Fundraising.
He has almost 5 Million subscribers btw.

IWW

25 Jan, 18:59


ai caution

IWW

25 Jan, 11:43


bodied him lmao deadmau5 is the goat

IWW

24 Jan, 22:10


Which starter did you choose?

IWW

23 Jan, 01:01


What a despicable person to misgender his daughter.
If there is one thing that it's sure it's that karma exists, it will not be good for him at the end, just seeing this behaviour that he has with his daughter one can think that when the s**t hits the Fan Nobody will be there for him, dying alone and Nobody will remember him as a good person, no amount of money can be able to repair this.
It's just sad.

IWW

23 Jan, 00:18


One of the childs of Elon, knows him more than all of his brainrotted Internet fans.

IWW

22 Jan, 16:57


Der Linke ist nur neidig auf die Mitte und nicht auf den Rechten

IWW

21 Jan, 19:58


Yes seriously, why do they care?

IWW

20 Jan, 04:39


The invention of the Avocado toast and its consequences

IWW

20 Jan, 04:35


https://youtube.com/shorts/OzjKgKOi_AE

Those damn Avocado toasts!

IWW

19 Jan, 23:45


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vG1Nis_gns

IWW

19 Jan, 23:11


Every single conservative is like this

IWW

19 Jan, 05:23


We can't Accept complains about firefighters from people that have 0 game hours in this masterpiece.

IWW

19 Jan, 05:16


They have only one joke.
ONLY ONE JOKE.
They know how to manage all of the wild fires by sitting on their computers browsing the Internet in underpants.
Everyone becomes an expert on the Internet.

IWW

18 Jan, 04:42


Now maga knows what it means to vote for someone that will be delusional.
It's the same when lefties had to Put away their pride and vote for Biden and seeing the cringe show going on for 4 years.

IWW

17 Jan, 16:37


These are the designs, what do you think?

IWW

16 Jan, 21:21


the great caliph Duuniya ad-Druumf owns racist politician!

IWW

16 Jan, 06:12


The Chinese people on Xiaohongshu are now asking Americans for help with their English homework LMAOOOO

IWW

14 Jan, 18:53


Why billionaires have so much relationship problems?

IWW

13 Jan, 16:27


We muwust conquwuer the Cowostantinapowole!

IWW

13 Jan, 15:49


He’s getting a divorce isn’t he

IWW

07 Jan, 19:30


Philadelphia’s Doctors-in-Training Are Unionizing by the Thousands
https://www.leftvoice.org/philadelphias-doctors-in-training-are-unionizing-by-the-thousands/

https://redd.it/1hvtx6w
@r_iww

IWW

07 Jan, 13:40


The Key to Persuasion (as a Leftist)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1mLsHLZkvSw

IWW

07 Jan, 02:26


These fuckers don't even know that Nvidia employees are also paid in stocks, having stocks is like owning a small piece of a company, Something in socialism was said about workers owning the means of production.
These posters should just suck a bag of Dicks and get fucked.
Nvidia is the exception, not the norm.

IWW

06 Jan, 22:01


This is just european communist Propaganda, Nobody in the us works for minimum wage

IWW

06 Jan, 21:29


Draw your own conclusions.

IWW

04 Jan, 23:54


Don't know if he's rage baiting or he actually means these things.
Another take of andrew tate on what is gay and what's not.

IWW

04 Jan, 21:26


Watching Tom & Jerry right now.
Do you folks also like Tom & Jerry?

IWW

01 Jan, 13:34


Current right wing politics rn

IWW

01 Jan, 01:07


1. Christmas Town
2. Little Elves
3. Santa's Sleigh
4. Santa Claus

IWW

31 Dec, 16:02


Truth
https://redd.it/1hqg80w
@r_iww

IWW

29 Dec, 18:25


The X social network should be studied for science. This is the Maga civil war that it's Happening right now, and the arguments are disgusting.

IWW

29 Dec, 03:54


Thoughts?

IWW

19 Dec, 19:41


That’s how I imagine marriage with an HR lady is.
This is a straight couple btw and still they act gay AF.
Also posting this cringe couple videos on the interwebz is embarassing.

IWW

19 Dec, 10:40


Centrists takes be like "i'm not racist of course, i just want more controls at the border.
I want people to come in this country, but LEGALLY"

IWW

15 Dec, 01:21


‘’Free Luigi Mangione‘’. In the toilets of the University of Turin, hymns towards the killer of Unite Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson appear.

IWW

08 Dec, 22:56


US Healthcare System Explained
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DublqkOSBBA

IWW

08 Dec, 00:14


Can someone from the US explain what is this thing about health insurance regarding the so called "pre existing condition" and why some care can be denied because of it?

IWW

05 Dec, 15:35


Card came and the design is cool
https://redd.it/1h79pkm
@r_iww

IWW

04 Dec, 22:03


Old but Still slaps.
The Pokémon universe has free and Public healthcare.

IWW

04 Dec, 19:42


2021 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences

IWW

04 Dec, 19:19


"Economics Explained" channel on YouTube.
It's tiring to hear this argument. No sources except this graph, basically "trust me bro" as it's finest.
A Nobel prize of economics was given to two guys that have done a study that raising wages doesn't increase prizes.

IWW

28 Nov, 01:39


Unions are complicated
https://redd.it/1h1gyoo
@r_iww

IWW

22 Nov, 12:21


See, Andrew Tate finally gets it

Its gay to be straight

IWW

22 Nov, 06:30


We have reached full circle, now beign straight= gay

IWW

22 Nov, 06:29


MAGA Influencer Claims It’s “Gay” For Men to Have Sex with Women
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tH6uydPCX8Q&

IWW

19 Nov, 13:53


white women when they say “gracias” to a waiter at a mexican restaurant

IWW

17 Nov, 17:31


Jokes aside...
Imagine being on a private jet, worth trillions and you could get ANYTHING you want AND YOU CHOOSE MCDONALD'S?!!?

IWW

17 Nov, 15:55


Late stage capitalism

IWW

15 Nov, 21:13


The Onion Buys Alex Jones’s Infowars Out of Bankruptcy - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/business/media/alex-jones-infowars-the-onion.html

IWW

12 Nov, 19:23


Protestants ruin everything they touch.
Hitler was voted mainly from the prots, even though he began his political career in Bavaria which is mainly catholic.
Prots tend to vote for the extreme right.
Same happens with Trump,
The evangelical base supports him a lot.
For more info Google : "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism"

IWW

12 Nov, 12:00


Pick for Britain - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_for_Britain

IWW

11 Nov, 17:31


Channel photo updated

IWW

08 Nov, 04:09


Neo-Nazi Pulls Off Surprise Victory In Long-Held KKK District | Onion Ne...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qnZRVZce5Qs

IWW

08 Nov, 03:54


It's old, but the national bird said no.
The bird understood.

IWW

08 Nov, 03:53


Trump gets attacked by bald eagle
https://youtube.com/watch?v=j1AU4qi7tWg&si=bStu8KbxOkGtHKY8

IWW

07 Nov, 22:43


I leave this here

IWW

07 Nov, 17:09


"You can be as strong as you want but people will always prefer the orange one"

IWW

06 Nov, 22:10


Iww.org
Pslweb.org
Socialistra.org
Foodnotbombs.net

IWW

06 Nov, 08:12


Why don't these parties just do united front? Are they stupid?

IWW

01 Nov, 22:41


We were talking about this, don't know if the law can be applies for Something that happened a lot of years ago btw.

IWW

01 Nov, 00:10


Sketching on the clock 2
https://redd.it/1ggo79i
@r_iww

IWW

29 Oct, 07:42


Sketching while on the clock
https://redd.it/1gdy5e0
@r_iww

IWW

20 Oct, 16:14


📰 The latest from the Industrial Worker: Contracts are not Class Struggle

By: Jay Bettencourt

From the very beginning, labor law was written in order to destroy workers’ most powerful weapon, economic disruption.

The idea that the law exists to protect workers and “protect the right to organize a union” is a comforting fiction told by mid-20th Century liberals and exemplified by the New Deal compromise between capital and labor that was brokered by the state.

#IWW #unions #Wobblies #labor #workers #DirectAction #OBU

IWW

18 Oct, 09:43


Today Joe Biden is visiting Berlin.
I can Imagine his opening speech.
"Hello people from Berlin! Texas is a really nice place!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin,_Texas

IWW

17 Oct, 04:42


Teamsters don't negotiate for a living wage anymore so that their members need to do adult content in order to make a living.

IWW

15 Oct, 15:10


Humans developed agriculture and decided to invent capitalism

IWW

15 Oct, 14:01


🌞 ¡Buenos días, comunidad! Aquí os dejamos las noticias más importantes del día.

🏠 “Madrid será la tumba del rentismo”: el pueblo exige la vivienda como derecho, no como negocio
https://spanishrevolution.net/madrid-sera-la-tumba-del-rentismo
Miles de personas siguen saliendo a las calles para reclamar un derecho tan básico como un techo en pleno 2024. La lucha contra el rentismo se intensifica.

⚠️ Nueva fase: Netanyahu amenaza directamente a la ONU. ¿Será este el punto de no retorno?

https://spanishrevolution.net/nueva-fase-netanyahu-amenaza-directamente-a-la-onu-sera-este-el-punto-de-no-retorno
Las tensiones entre Israel y la ONU en el sur de Líbano se disparan, con Netanyahu instando a la retirada de los cascos azules, acusando a la FINUL de proteger a Hizbulá.

💸 Vox gasta en Andalucía en personal lo mismo que el PP, con un número de diputados cuatro veces menor
https://spanishrevolution.net/vox-gasta-en-andalucia-en-personal-lo-mismo-que-el-pp-con-un-numero-de-diputados-cuatro-veces-menor
El partido de la austeridad despilfarra recursos públicos en personal, mientras Andalucía sigue con servicios esenciales en precariedad.

🚫 Suecia y el populismo ultraderechista: acabar con la pobreza prohibiendo que las personas pidan limosna
https://spanishrevolution.net/suecia-y-el-populismo-ultraderechista
Convertir la mendicidad en un delito no erradica la pobreza, solo la oculta. El populismo de derechas ataca a los más vulnerables.

💥 La implosión de Vox: cómo el partido se desangra desde dentro

https://spanishrevolution.net/la-implosion-de-vox-como-el-partido-se-desangra-desde-dentro
La salida de Rocío Monasterio muestra cómo Vox se desmorona por dentro, carcomido por las luchas internas y sus propios demonios.

✈️ De lo que nadie habla: Israel enfrenta una salida masiva sin precedentes huyendo del gobierno de Netanyahu
https://spanishrevolution.net/israel-huye-gobierno-netanyahu
Más de 40.000 personas han abandonado Israel en los últimos siete meses, huyendo del gobierno de Netanyahu y reflejando el malestar social y el rechazo a sus políticas.

💥 ¡Nos vemos en la próxima!

IWW

15 Oct, 13:12


Spain: Thousands protest for affordable housing – DW – 10/13/2024
https://www.dw.com/en/spain-thousands-protest-for-affordable-housing/a-70482497

IWW

15 Oct, 12:04


Your Bluetooth device is an ally

IWW

14 Oct, 09:11


Ничего необычного, просто Русский домен Discord ведет на сайт службы по контракту
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Nothing special, just the Russian Discord domain leads to the contract service website

IWW

12 Oct, 10:32


surprisedpikachuface.jpg

IWW

12 Oct, 10:32


New Poll: Despite Blue-Collar Troubles, Harris Has Slight Lead Over Trump in Pennsylvania
https://jacobin.com/2024/10/harris-trump-pa-workers-election-poll

IWW

12 Oct, 04:58


Room of a young girl, Egypt, 1970
She was totally slaying with that santa claus poster.
You go girl!

IWW

11 Oct, 17:09


A Spectre Is haunting the bosses, the spectre of one big Union!

IWW

11 Oct, 17:08


Channel photo updated

IWW

11 Oct, 17:07


Channel photo removed

IWW

11 Oct, 16:28


Discord will be unblocked soon in Ru 👀

But I don't think that's true