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Are Harvard or MIT students happier?

My son was an economics major at MIT. He took an econ class at Harvard via cross-registration just to see what Harvard was like, and because the class was offered at a more convenient time of day. He was astonished that the class had no math in it. How can you teach economics without math?? The Harvard econ class ended up being more applied philosophy than economics.

MIT students generally are much happier than Harvard students, just as most STEM majors are much happier than liberal arts majors. Why? In STEM fields, generally problems have a correct answer, which the prof usually supplies. Your challenge is to show your work, to show how you got it. If everyone gets the right answer, everyone gets an A. Students cooperate and form study groups, and help each other. In the liberal arts, by contrast, if you are looking for symbolism in Shakespeare, there is no right answer. If you get an insight that other students don’t get, you get the A and they don’t. You’re not competing against the STEM problem, you are instead competing against your fellow students. Not a good recipe for happiness.

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I applied as a transfer student to MIT and didn't get in, but the rejection letter said I was an excellent applicant. Should I try again?

First congratulations. MIT truly means that, when they state you are an excellent applicant. Note, each year MIT enrolls 1,100 freshmen and only (roughly) 20 transfer students. The admission rate for freshmen is around 8% and for transfer students it is around 2%. It is Very difficult to transfer to MIT.

Given that MIT recommends that you attempt to transfer to MIT while a Sophomore at your current college, that means if you wait one year and apply next year., and succeed to transfer to MIT, you will have completed three years at your college, but MIT will Require you to repeat a year at MIT (attend MIT for two years).

Instead, it is best to concentrate on being one of the top three students in your department at your current college, and doing an Excellent senior capstone project. Then with some glowing hot letters of recommendation from your professors, you can become a Fully-Funded MIT graduate student after receiving your bachelors degree from your current college. MIT has roughly 4,400 undergraduates and Over 6,500 graduate students.

It is Far easier to become a graduate student at MIT than to transfer in as an undergraduate.

Focus on your current college for now.

All the best.

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My friend got into MIT and he's like really stupid. Should I notify MIT admissions so they don't embarrass themselves?

Let me tell you a little story. When I was studying physics at MIT, there was a girl, also majoring in physics , who used to ask… ummm… really basic questions during the lectures. Some people would look at each other, thinking: “I can’t believe she doesn’t know that…”! When senior year came around and we were all applying to physics graduate schools, that girl scored a perfect 800 on the Advanced Test in Physics, no mean feat, beating yours truly I might add, among several others. She applied to and was accepted into programs at Caltech, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, UC Berkeley, and Chicago. Undergrads rarely stay at MIT because the Professors advise us to go elsewhere to get a different perspective.. You NEVER know what is going on underneath; a lesson for us all..

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Is it possible for MIT or Caltech financial aid to cover all tuition?

I interviewed an MIT applicant about nine years ago. Brilliant young lady. She was admitted to MIT and to Caltech (the only two colleges she applied to). MIT wanted her family to pay a hefty amount and for her to take out $6,000 per year in Stafford loans (typical for MIT). Caltech treated her like a graduate student: Free tuition and a stipend towards room and board. She asked me what to do. I said fly out to Pasadena and check out the campus and students. She did and loved it. I told her: Fine, go to Caltech and then later go to MIT as a professor....... She did.....

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I was rejected from NYU but accepted into Columbia. How?

NYU didn’t want you but Columbia did.

It is a myth propagated by insecure students and their arrogant parents that “top” schools accept only the “top” students, and as you go down the pecking order of prestige the students are less accomplished. That is nonsense. There are far too many top students in the United States to fill the incoming class of even the best 50 Universities and liberal arts colleges in the country. That means that admission in many cases is a lottery, and a lot of very deserving students are going to be disappointed if they really wanted to attend a specific school.

Schools will also look for reasons to accept some students and reject others that have nothing to do with anything that you can do to influence their decision. In your case, both these schools are in New York, but suppose you were a New Yorker rejected by Columbia but accepted by Stanford. The simple reason could have been that Columbia doesn’t want a class full of New Yorkers, and Stanford doesn’t want a class full of Northern Californians. In that case a candidate becomes more attractive to Stanford than Columbia, all else being equal.

You don’t say which programs you were applying to, and that can also play a significant role. Maybe the program at NYU is more competitive than the comparable program at Columbia. Who knows? You don’t give enough data.

The point of course is that you really shouldn’t care. Either school will give you a great education, and both are in New York, so you get the same experience there. As to post graduation, you will have to make it on your own, regardless of the career you choose. A good college can help you get your first job, but having gone there won’t help you keep your job if you don’t perform, or if the economy goes into recession, or if your company gets taken over, or any of the other one million reasons why people lose their jobs in the 21st century United States.


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What do Harvard students think of MIT students?

My wife is an MIT alum (we met senior year through online dating). We have a standard joke: whenever I fail at doing arithmetic, or whenever she misspells a word or gets some grammar wrong, our response when the other partner calls us on it is invariably, "Yeah, yeah, wrong end of the street." "The street" is, of course, Massachusetts Ave. in Cambridge, on which both Harvard and MIT are located, Harvard being on the western end of Cambridge and MIT being on the eastern end.

The point is that we consider each other to have different strengths. This is not so much a trait shaped by where we attended college, as a trait that shaped where we chose to apply and attend. With some exceptions, my mind deals in qualitative concepts (art, history, politics, sociology, literature), while hers deals in quantitative concepts (advanced math, engineering, process analysis, statistics, modeling and simulation).

That distinction is one that carries over in part to how the schools' curricula are laid out. Although Harvard has many students who choose STEM-related fields of study, it requires a broad grounding in the liberal arts for all students through its General Education requirements, and there are only two Engineering degrees: A.B. and S.B. (separated by their rigor). MIT, in contrast, has multiple engineering courses, each encompassing a different field of engineering (I want to say five or six, but I may be underestimating; a "course" is like a major at other schools), but only one "Humanities" course; furthermore, it has several required classes that everyone must take, including single-variable and multi-variable calculus, biology, chemistry, and two fields of physics.

I personally think I would have failed out of MIT very quickly. I have nothing but admiration for the quantitative skills MIT students and alumni possess. On the other hand, I think my wife is smarter than me and would have done fine at Harvard, although she denies being smarter than me, so I guess we're at an impasse on that one!

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I got rejected from MIT. Would it be frowned upon if I sent an appeal letter to the MIT dean and the admissions office?

Short answer, there is no such thing as an “appeal letter” for admissions.

The question really is, “I was rejected by MIT. If I ask them politely, will they tell me why I was rejected?”

Let’s pretend you did. Here is your answer:

Dear Applicant,

Thank you for your interest in MIT. We appreciate your effort in submitting an application that reflected your personality and qualifications, and the effort of those who recommended you. Frankly, this year we had a TON of qualified applicants. Last year we thought we got a boatload of qualified applicants, and this year we got even more, and we don’t have any more beds for freshmen than last year. In fact, we’ve been accepting roughly the same number of incoming freshmen since before there were electronic calculators! MIT’s campus is landlocked and there is only so much space for dorms. Plus, MIT’s yield rate has increased dramatically, so even when we added new dorms, we couldn’t increase the number of students we accepted. For every applicant we accepted, we rejected maybe 10(?) who were great people and capable of being successful at MIT. We just didn’t have the room! For the Class of 2023, we received 21,312 applications and we made 1,427 offers of admission (6.7%). That led to 1,107 students enrolled—a yield rate of nearly 78%. 1,107 is about how many dorm beds we have for freshmen. Back in the slide rule era, we had room for about 900 freshmen, but the yield rate was lower, so we were admitting about the same number of applicants as today, maybe even more back then, although we get 5 times as many applicants now. This year, we accepted the 1,427 or so applicants that we felt would provide the best possible freshman class. We’re sorry, but you weren’t one of them. A few of our applicants just didn’t have the qualifications or were bad matches for our mission. But chances are you are a great kid and we just liked other applicants more. And chances are that you were accepted at one or more universities that might be better matches for you. We hope you attend a school that’s ideal for you and do well there and throughout your future. Good luck! Your future is what you make it.

Respectfully,

Tim the Beaver

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Why was I accepted to MIT and Stanford without any hooks, but rejected from every single Ivy? Are these schools looking for different things?

With little information on you, I will assume that you applied to Stanford Early. Colleges love students who seem like a good fit, and indicate that they really want to attend by applying early. For MIT, you had the correct amount of Nerdiness.

If you were admitted to both MIT and Stanford, then your academic prowess goes without question.

Hooks? You had hooks, but did not realize it. You believed (correct???) that both MIT and Stanford are a great fit for You, and those colleges looked at your application material, including all of those wonderful letters of recommendation, and determined that you would be a good fit with the college’s undergraduate community.

Congratulations, you were admitted to two Fine universities.

Of course, you did make One Glowingly Bad decision during your application process: You applied, according to your question, to all Eight of the colleges in the Ivy Athletic league. Bad, bad, bad.

You are probably not an athlete and that looked bad,
No one. No single person, is a good fit with all eight of those colleges. Therefore you were perceived as indecisive and not a good judge of what is best for you.
Be glad that at least two of the ten accepted you.

Look at the bright side, and enjoy Cambridge, MA. You must be more than slightly nerdy, and you might as well join all of us at the ‘Tute.

All the best.

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Can I get into Johns Hopkins with a 3.1 GPA (unweighted) and a 1450 SAT?

I had a 3.3 GPA and a 1470 SAT. I applied Early Decision to Johns Hopkins, knowing full well that I wouldn’t get in. Even though I had some impressive extracurricular activities and a few good AP scores, Hopkins was incredibly competitive and I knew that as wholesome a process as it was, grades and the SAT did matter. Many people advised me to use my ED on a more realistic choice, but Hopkins was my dream school and I knew I had to give it a shot. I presented my activities in the most positive light possible, got some great recommendations from my teachers, and wrote the best essays I possibly could. I got in.

Yes, Johns Hopkins is extremely competitive. Yes, 3.3+1470 is somewhat higher than 3.1+1450. And yes, there is a good chance that you will not get in. However, what this process taught me is that it’s never impossible. Hopkins is a school that cares more than anything about accepting students with unique characters and burning passions for their areas of study. If you, like me, are someone who sometimes messed up in your grades during high school but have a devotion to your field and possess a unique perspective -and if you can convey this in your essays- then you certainly have a shot at getting in.

If Johns Hopkins is a school you want because of its high status, then move on. You can safely get into a school with a slightly worse but still very impressive ranking. But if your dream school is Hopkins and you know you would be a good match, then ignore any comments on Quora or Prep Scholar telling you you won’t get in, and work on preparing the best application humanly possible. Good luck.

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How many extracurriculars do you need to get into Harvard?

Okay. So. I may not be going to Harvard, but I would say that as a person who recently got into MIT, Brown, and other schools of the like, I will say this:

Extracurriculars are good, but only if you’re doing things you genuinely actually like. I legit only did 3 extracurriculars throughout my entire high school career (I will say that I also played a spring sport, but it’s required at my school to play sports, so it felt more like another credit to fulfill than an extracurricular, though it was very fun and something I enjoyed), but I was very invested in the things that I did. Admissions officers can tell the difference between students who are committed to their various activities and those who just have a lot of activities for the college app.

And even so, it’s not all about one thing (extracurriculars, grades, scores, etc.). Colleges are looking for individuals, so everything has importance for reasons on your application. Scores and grades may indicate how capable you would be at the school, while your essays and non-academic portions let them know who you are as a person and how you could fit into that community on campus.

The advice that I give to so many people is to truly be yourself and be honest with that. Don’t try to fit a mold or do things you think colleges want to see. Yes, have extracurriculars. A few, a lot — it only matters if you are actually committed to them and show genuine interests. Don’t let them take over your life, and on the flipside, don’t let academics take over your life. Find a healthy balance for you between everything — the more you know yourself and your interests and limits, the better off you will be for the application process when it comes up for you.

If you’re truly interested in Harvard, know that it will be hard — you need to be academically capable to even be considered. After that, present yourself in the most honest and representative light that you can. Be articulate and show them who you are. There are over 40,000 applicants every year— it’s the most applied-to private college in the US. Show them what makes you an intellectual individual.

P.S. — I personally was considering Harvard up until my sophomore year of high school. What drew me away was me actually examining the question “Is this a good fit for me?” What there was to offer and the environment and such — it just wasn’t for me. The only reason I ever did consider it was really just the name and parental pressure, so I didn’t apply because I knew I wouldn’t end up there even if I did get in. That’s not to take away from Harvard or anyone else’s consideration for the college, but I sat examining my college list for a while and made changes after doing research. MIT did not come up on my list until this past September, and even then I wasn’t getting my hopes up or dreaming of it. It was actually a pleasant surprise when I got in because I didn’t expect it. After doing research and going to *online* revisits (thanks corona T__T), I picked MIT and I’m actually really happy with the choice I made because it is a good all-around fit for me :)

P.S. — It was like 3 am when I wrote this (I was working on a physics pset and lost track of time), so sorry if there are any typos in here.


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Can you share your SAT score and the college you got into?

I received a 1580/1600 SAT (800 Math, and 780 Language) and a 4.6 GPA, was a National Merit Finalist/Scholar, member of the Science National Honors Society, was ranked #1 in Biology in my Junior year, was in the top 10 in Freshman year for my state Science League, ranked internationally in Biology in the Toronto Biology Competition multiple years, was a semifinalist multiple times in United States Biology Olympiad, and was a member of our nationally ranked Debate Team, Computer Science Club, and Federal Reserve Challenge Club and the president of Brain Bee.

I applied to Yale, Cornell, University of California Berkeley, University of California Los Angeles, Washington University in St. Louis, Northwestern University, University of Chicago, University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, University of Michigan, Duke University, Emory University, and Columbia University, in no particular order, and of course, my safety, the local flagship state school in New Jersey, Rutgers-New Brunswick.

I was relatively quickly accepted into Rutgers (with minimal scholarship), and that gave me hope, until I got rejected or waitlisted from every other college. Ultimately, I got off the waitlist at University of California-Los Angeles (and nowhere else), and I took the opportunity as it came.

I was absolutely devastated, but there’s a couple lessons to take here.

- My performance was mediocre compared to my school. I didn’t expect to get into most of the top colleges because in the past my school didn’t have that much success getting students better than me in (our school’s success rate is publicly posted). In addition, our school had a lot of students who were vastly more worthy.

- My extracurriculars appear big, but were largely inflated. I didn’t get many significant awards in any of the events I participated in, so it didn’t really count for much. In addition, I didn’t do much community service other than what was required, so I could barely talk about my contribution to my community.

- I’m a terrible writer, and my essays showed that heavily. And since the main major I put down was as “Economics”, I wrote a lot about wanting to join College Federal Reserve Challenge, which is great… if the colleges have a Federal Reserve Challenge team. It turns out that College Federal Reserve Challenge does not exist outside of the North Atlantic, because of time and budget constraints with the local Federal Reserve Bank. My “Why” essays were mostly copied between colleges, and, in general, I had trouble writing down why I wanted to go to this college *specifically*

And some of it is just luck. This was one of the worst years in terms of college acceptances for our entire school. Very few people got into Ivies, much less than the year prior, making it one of our worst years in the last 10 years. Some of this can be attributed to a drop in grade inflation (because our total school grades fell, but standardized testing grades and success rose significantly.

P.S: So yeah, don’t feel bad wherever you’re going, or wherever you may go. Break open the crowbar, and pry the doors of opportunity open.

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Do I have a chance at getting into Stanford if my GPA is 3.1 but I have a 1600 SAT and a few international achievements for ECs? Or will I be instantly threw into the bin because of my sub par grades?

As I have explained in the past, admission to Stanford is done in stages. The first stage is to separate the legacies, single-choice-early-action, and recruited athletes from all others. All these applications will be read and a committee will determine whether they are good enough to be Stanford students.

The rest go through a number of hurdles. The first hurdle is the SAT score because it is a national test with a single number. At least a third will be set aside (not tossed into a bin, but assigned a lower priority) solely on the SAT score (remember selecting about 2,000 applicants out of at least 40,000 applications is VERY time consuming, so using the SAT score is efficient). You will probably make it through that hurdle. At this point there are 1,500 slots for 25,000 applicants.

The next hurdle is the GPA. This requires the reviewer to evaluate your transcript. Some schools are tougher than others. Some courses are more difficult. So the GPA as a number is not as comparable as a number as is the SAT score. There is no magic cut off, but I would say you need at least an unweighted GPA of 3.8 to get through this hurdle (this GPA number can be higher or lower depending on the competition). The goal is to set aside 15,000 applicants. (Set aside implies that your application is not given priority, not that it has been rejected, that will take place at the end of the process.)

The third hurdle is your letters of recommendation. There is no magic number here. Any negative information will get you set aside. We are now down to 6–8,000 applicants for 1,500 places.

The next hurdle is evaluating your essay and extra curricular activities. This is VERY time consuming! After this there are about 3,000 applications or so. This is when the « Stanford family » is called in to interview the applicants in every part of the world. All Stanford alums are expected to cooperate. Depending on the review, your application then is reviewed by a committee to determine if you are an appropriate addition to the incoming portfolio of students. Can you play a musical instrument and are you likely to contribute to the infamous band? Walk on to any sports teams? Perform some magic in a laboratory? Etc…

Finally, along with the legacy, single-choice-early-action, and athletic non-rejects, an algorithm is used to determine how many acceptance letters to send out and how many applicants to put on the waitlist.

This is a VERY labor intensive process and it would be great to treat each applicant as a unique individual, but there are an ever increasing number of applicants (there were 42,000 for the class of 2022 with 1900 admits) requiring an ever increasing objectification of applications.

FYI, I was rejected by Stanford and ended up teaching there for 26 years. So, if you are rejected, keep applying at every stage! One of the things Stanford likes is people who don’t quit. Keep trying and some day you might be living or working on the Farm!

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🥳 I was accepted by IBU (International Business University)

💸 Tuition: 17,000+ CAD
💵 Scholarship: 4000 CAD
💸 Net Tuition: 13000 CAD

✅ No Application fee

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🔖 A serious appeal to parents whose children are studying abroad!

I would like to emphasize this because I witness this scene a lot in Japan and Korea. Dear parents, if you have sent your children to study abroad, do not ask your children to send large amounts of money until they get a bigger scholarship or, if not, until they graduate and get a job. Don't just demand, don't expect.

I have said before: our young students (!) studying abroad are not geese that lay golden eggs. The vast majority of them have to earn contract sums, work for their living and have some rest as students. However, parents and family members in our country do not understand this, and even if they do, they hope for money openly or secretly.

I wish my children would send more and more money: buy houses, weddings, and more cars. Even if the amount sent this month is a little less than last month, "Boy, is it a little less this time?" They don't even like to give a joke. Seeing the attitude of parents, brothers and sisters to the student who went on a journey in the path of knowledge, you want to say goodbye to our people's ignorance and lack of value for knowledge and science.

After all, our children have come to study abroad! The employer is not a guest worker! Well, let's say it worked. What will happen after that? Education remains on paper, there is no vocational training at work, because foreigners are stupid and do not give important vocational positions to ours. I learned this myself by talking to students. What will life be like in 7-8 years? What will be the next fate of this boy or girl? This is very interesting to me. With a very high probability, he can go to a business such as a taxi driver, a shopkeeper, if he is very lucky, a builder. However, because he did not study in a developed foreign country and did not learn the necessary profession, he will have difficulties in his later life. He cannot climb to the top.

In fact, a student is seen as a person who has the right to receive zakat. Yes, you can give him the zakat that is given to the poor. And our nation thinks of using the student as a DONKEY. We are in a hurry. After all, let's give it some time (3-4 years). Let him read a little and come to his senses. And after that, you will enjoy what he found for a lifetime. However, until then, we should wait patiently and, if possible, go abroad and help our young men and women who are studying in expensive universities and give them financial support.

Among students abroad, I see a lot of people who shoulder all the burden from a very early age and get old very quickly. The poor person has no right even to be sick. Because if he gets sick, his whole life will be ruined and his work will be difficult. This is not good for the youth of our nation. Studying, working and living with such great pressure can cause them serious psychological problems in the future.

Conclusion No. 1: Although I do not say all of them, most of the students are young men and women who call my home, my place, my parents. In that case, let's not compare ourselves to our neighbors who send their children to "study" abroad and receive a lot of money every month. Let's also know how to wait with great patience until our child finishes his education, gets a well-paid job, and receives money. Instead, do not accept old age quickly, continue to work as a parent, earn money. This will keep your body healthy and you will not age quickly.

Conclusion No. 2: Our students, like other young men and women around them, should not rush and send money to their families, but first of all, they should think about their first goal - to enjoy their studies.

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What are some stories of students getting admitted to Stanford or the Ivies with a low SAT?

I sort of knew a kid with a 1370 sat score who got into Brown and cornell. She wasn't the brightest bulb in the box but she had a few things going for her:

✅ She was low income and from an underrepresented minority.

✅She was a REALLY AMAZING WRITER. She got a near full score for her IB English extended essay and was known for winning a butt ton of local/county writing competitions

✅Had a high GPA and was taking an impressive courseload. She graduated with an UW 3.77 gpa and had the IB diploma + 5 AP 5’s

✅She took advantage of everything. She made friends with everyone and probably had brilliant recommendations. Although for some reason her extracurriculars weren't very impressive

✅Had an extremely sad family history. Her Dad murdered her mom and she was living with her relatives

✅WAS ACTUALLY FRIENDS WITH A FORMER IVY STUDENT. There was an old guy that she helped on the weekends. We didn't think much about it until it turned out the old guy was a former Yale student and had a PhD from Columbia

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🇨🇦 40 Canadian Universities that offers fully funded scholarship for international students.

✅University of Toronto
✅University of British Columbia
✅McGill University
✅University of Waterloo
✅University of Alberta
✅Queen's University
✅McMaster University
✅Western University
✅York University
✅Simon Fraser University
✅University of Calgary
✅University of Ottawa
✅University of Manitoba
✅Carleton University
✅Dalhousie University
✅University of Saskatchewan
✅Memorial University of Newfoundland
✅Concordia University
✅University of Guelph
✅University of Victoria
✅University of New Brunswick
✅University of Windsor
✅Ryerson University
✅University of Regina
✅Wilfrid Laurier University
✅University of Northern British Columbia
✅University of Lethbridge
✅Mount Allison University
✅Saint Mary's University
✅Thompson Rivers University
✅University of Winnipeg
✅University of Prince Edward Island
✅Cape Breton University
✅Trent University
✅Bishop's University
✅Lakehead University
✅Laurentian University
✅Nipissing University
✅Brandon University
✅University of the Fraser Valley

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