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@forex_bob


πŸ€– Purchase Forex Robots, indicators n utilities
🦾 Develop EA on demand
©️ Copy Trading
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🌐https://www.mql5.com/en/users/9210934041/seller

Admin : @forexbob_support

FOREXBOB (English)

Are you looking to enhance your Forex trading experience? Look no further than FOREXBOB! This Telegram channel, with the username @forex_bob, offers a range of services to help you succeed in the Forex market. From purchasing Forex robots, indicators, and utilities to developing EA on demand, FOREXBOB has everything you need to take your trading to the next level

One of the standout features of FOREXBOB is the option for Copy Trading, allowing you to automatically copy the trades of experienced traders. This can be a great way to learn from the best in the industry and improve your own trading strategies. Additionally, the channel offers Social Trading, where you can connect with other traders, share insights, and collaborate for mutual success.

At FOREXBOB, quality is always prioritized over quantity. The channel focuses on providing top-notch products and services that can truly make a difference in your trading journey. Whether you are a novice trader looking to learn or an experienced investor seeking new tools, FOREXBOB has something for everyone.

To learn more about the offerings available at FOREXBOB, you can visit their website at https://www.mql5.com/en/users/9210934041/seller. For any inquiries or support, you can reach out to the knowledgeable admin at @forexbob_support. Don't miss out on the opportunity to elevate your Forex trading experience with FOREXBOB!

FOREXBOB

13 Jan, 14:43


MAYA - A stable and consistent profit making bot which working for us since March 2023 πŸ’ͺ about to complete 2 years in few weeks.

PURCHASE HERE
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MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108

MAYA MT4 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99143

LIVE PERFORMANCE
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MAYA MT4 OLD ACCOUNT

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4/10927667
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MAYA MT4 NEW ACCOUNT
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2261287

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4-2/11145010
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MAYA MT5
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2191276

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/maya-mt5/10927757

MAYA promotional price is 200$,
target price is 1500$. So hurry up!!

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

09 Jan, 14:39


For Cross Hedge we currently trading Gold, soon will start with US30 too with a new setup. πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

FOREXBOB

09 Jan, 14:33


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS HEDGE EA booked 74% gain before the end of 13th week that too in just 56 trading days πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

Note :- This is working on aggressive setup.

Live Stats Myfxbook :-
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/cross-hedge-ea/11165883

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

03 Jan, 09:28


Hello Guys,

If anybody knows a good broker who offers spread like Icmarkets for US30 but lot size starting from mini lot (0.10) then please ping personally.

Working on something for a new project for you guys.

Thanks

FOREXBOB

02 Jan, 05:37


Final call for the offer,

Price will reset to previous one after 1 hour.

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FOREXBOB

01 Jan, 13:36


Happy New Year once again all of you guys, we are wishing a healthy and wealthy New Year 2025 for all of you guys and your loved ones.

And we are thankful to all of you guys who are staying with us in our ForexBob community for so long and building our confidence by trusting our products and services.

We assure you we continue to assist you in the future as well with our existing and upcoming products.

Let's build strong together πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

01 Jan, 11:47


FEW HOURS LEFT

HURRY UP!!!! GUYS

FOREXBOB

31 Dec, 16:05


Grab each of our product only at $125 on New Year 2025 occasion.

Offer Valid for 24hrs from now

Offer prices are active now and will be back to previous prices after exact 24 hours from now.

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FOREXBOB

31 Dec, 15:56


πŸ›

FOREXBOB

31 Dec, 15:56


Hello Guys,

Get ready for the SALE!!!

FOREXBOB

30 Dec, 03:40


Many user had bad experiences while using bots, and all the blames were for bots.

But out of my experience in forex I want to tell you one important thing that "Using Bots Is Also An Art"

Yes, it is an art that each user need to develop in themselves after a certain time of experience with use of bots, pair that have to be trade, when to change the settings and when to keep the bot enabled or disabled.

Letting all the things dependent on bot is not a legit way to use them.

They need the right commands, so we have to do so.

This doesn't mean each and every bot needs such activities, there are very few bots available in the market which doesn't need such tweeks.

But that have to identify ourselves and that needs guidance or that art.

Thank you
@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

28 Dec, 02:43


Hello,

Message to those who are not available in Cross Hedge EA premium channel,

As we need volatile market for using Cross Hedge EA, and due to holidays mood I am deactivating my Cross Hedge EA for next week due to absence of volatility.

Recommend you to do the same

Thank you
@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

27 Dec, 05:20


Thought !!!!

Most of the users think Martingale, Grid, Averaging and Hedging are risky strategies.

Yes, They are risky until you don't know the right way to use these strategies.

There are many factors which need to be considered while using martingale/grid and averaging like
- nature of pair,
- average daily movement
- account size
- lot size in proportion to account size
- multiply factor
- pips gap

These all factors are directly related to each other, so need a proper calculation.

In reality these strategies are always profitable strategies if you are doing it right way.

Infact this is the reason why prop firms didn't allow these strategies or they put consistency rules, as they know if they allow it openly they have to pay most of the users.

So change your perspective 😜
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FOREXBOB

27 Dec, 05:12


MAYA is a triangular currency arbitrage system which trades 3 currencies together while EA loaded on single chart.
Working consistently from past more than 1 yr 9 months.
Key Features.
- Can work on any trading conditions.
- Can trade 3 pairs together when loaded on single chart
- Consistent and Safe
- Can trade on high impact news
- Having 3 types of strategies to exit the trades
- Easy to use, just load and run
- It doesn't required regular tweeks in inputs settings


PURCHASE HERE
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MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108

MAYA MT4 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99143

LIVE PERFORMANCE
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MAYA MT4 OLD ACCOUNT

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4/10927667
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MAYA MT4 NEW ACCOUNT
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2261287

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4-2/11145010
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MAYA MT5
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2191276

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/maya-mt5/10927757

MAYA promotional price is 200$,
target price is 1500$. So hurry up!!

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

24 Dec, 11:29


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS HEDGE EA booked 67% gain before the end of 10th week that too in just 47 trading days πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

Note :- This is working on aggressive setup.

Live Stats Myfxbook :-
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/cross-hedge-ea/11165883

FOREXBOB

22 Dec, 02:55


Cross Hedge EA LIVE

FOREXBOB

19 Dec, 02:40


Even in such conditions our Cross Hedge / Maya / Folks Hedgefunds EA's working fine.
πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

FOREXBOB

19 Dec, 02:39


Over $1.50 trillion was wiped out from the US stock market today. 😱😱

FOREXBOB

13 Dec, 07:22


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS HEDGE EA booked 59% gain at the end of 8th week. πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

Note :- This is working on aggressive setup.

Live Stats mql5 :-
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2264260

Live Stats Myfxbook :-
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/cross-hedge-ea/11165883

FOREXBOB

08 Dec, 02:46


MAYA is a triangular currency arbitrage system which trades 3 currencies together while EA loaded on single chart.
Working consistently from past more than 1 yr 8 months.
Key Features.
- Can work on any trading conditions.
- Can trade 3 pairs together when loaded on single chart
- Consistent and Safe
- Can trade on high impact news
- Having 3 types of strategies to exit the trades
- Easy to use, just load and run
- It doesn't required regular tweeks in inputs settings


PURCHASE HERE
πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡
MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108

MAYA MT4 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99143

LIVE PERFORMANCE
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MAYA MT4 OLD ACCOUNT

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4/10927667
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MAYA MT4 NEW ACCOUNT
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2261287

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4-2/11145010
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MAYA MT5
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2191276

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/maya-mt5/10927757

MAYA promotional price is 200$,
target price is 1500$. So hurry up!!

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

07 Dec, 02:50


After price hike renting is also available for a month

FOREXBOB

06 Dec, 01:11


Hurry up !!!

Cross Hedge EA price gonna hike in today NY opening (Dec 06)

Next price will be 160$

https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

05 Dec, 08:03


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS HEDGE EA booked 50% gain before the end of 8th week. πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

Note :- This is working on aggressive setup.


Live Stats mql5 :-
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2264260

Live Stats Myfxbook :-
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/cross-hedge-ea/11165883

FOREXBOB

02 Dec, 02:45


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS HEDGE EA booked 44% gain so far before the end of 7th week.
Oct 24 gain - 12.18%
Nov 24 - 26.85%
Dec 24 - 1.02% continue....

This is working on aggressive setup.

You may check it using below link

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2264260

FOREXBOB

26 Nov, 05:58


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS HEDGE EA booked 40% gain so far before the end of 6th week.

You may check it using below link

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2264260

FOREXBOB

21 Nov, 14:34


MAYA is a triangular currency arbitrage system which trades 3 currencies together while EA loaded on single chart.
Working consistently from past more than 1.5 years.
Key Features.
- Can work on any trading conditions.
- Can trade 3 pairs together when loaded on single chart
- Consistent and Safe
- Can trade on high impact news
- Having 3 types of strategies to exit the trades
- Easy to use, just load and run
- It doesn't required regular tweeks in inputs settings


PURCHASE HERE
πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡
MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108

MAYA MT4 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99143

LIVE PERFORMANCE
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MAYA MT4 OLD ACCOUNT

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4/10927667
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MAYA MT4 NEW ACCOUNT
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2261287

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4-2/11145010
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MAYA MT5
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2191276

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/maya-mt5/10927757

MAYA promotional price is 200$,
target price is 1500$. So hurry up!!

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

20 Nov, 16:56


Alert 🚨 : πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦Ukraine launched Storm Shadow missiles into RussiaπŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί.

Russia warns to start nuclear war...

Keep your trades with SL.

If this happens, then it might be a good opportunity to earn money for experienced traders. But manage your risks.

Let's see how our bots Maya, Cross Hedge EA and Folks Hedgefunds EA handle the situation, our trades are running for now

FOREXBOB

17 Nov, 04:07


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS HEDGE EA booked 27% gain so far at the end of 5th week.

You may check it using below link

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2264260

FOREXBOB

15 Nov, 10:06


Greetings for all our group members while we celebrate the day to remember and pay gratitude to Guru Nanak Dev Ji (The founder of Sikhism) on thy 555th birth anniversary.
We respect them immensely for thy great contributions to humanity and took a stand for the poor. Moreover, various states of India observe thy birthday as a public holiday. On this day, we remember the teachings of Guru Nanak and recite them in our memory.
πŸ™πŸ™

FOREXBOB

09 Nov, 03:22


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FOREXBOB

06 Nov, 08:08


Today's Gain so far !!

Cross Hedge EA taking benefits of high volume in market due to US elections results

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FOREXBOB

06 Nov, 03:10


Good Morning,

Friends please trade with caution. There is high volatility in the market due to US Presidential Results in Exit Polls.

Please manage your risks. US30 had moved more than 100000 points in last 12hrs.

When there is high risk in such situations there are lot of opportunities also to make profits. Experienced traders making good money out of such volume.


Bitcoin Hits All time time 73800USDT.

FOREXBOB

05 Nov, 16:14


MAYA is a triangular currency arbitrage system which trades 3 currencies together while EA loaded on single chart.
Working consistently from past more than 1.5 years.
Key Features.
- Can work on any trading conditions.
- Can trade 3 pairs together when loaded on single chart
- Consistent and Safe
- Can trade on high impact news
- Having 3 types of strategies to exit the trades
- Easy to use, just load and run
- It doesn't required regular tweeks in inputs settings


PURCHASE HERE
πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡
MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108

MAYA MT4 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99143

LIVE PERFORMANCE
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MAYA MT4 OLD ACCOUNT

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4/10927667
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MAYA MT4 NEW ACCOUNT
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2261287

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4-2/11145010
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MAYA MT5
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2191276

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/maya-mt5/10927757

MAYA promotional price is 200$,
target price is 1500$. So hurry up!!

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

30 Oct, 04:35


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FOREXBOB

30 Oct, 04:35


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FOREXBOB

28 Oct, 12:52


Hello Everyone,

FYI trading time for passing challenges for NY session has been forwarded 1 hour from usual time due to US Daylight Time change.

For example if UK residents pass their challenges at 01:30 PM UK time then from now onwards you have to wait 1 hour more to see trading on your systems according to current setfiles given to you.
There is no change in setfiles.

(You may contact personally for updated list for HFT evaluations of prop firms who offers MT4 and MT5 these days)

Happy Trading.

Thank you.
@forexbob_support.

FOREXBOB

22 Oct, 14:40


https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018
CROSS HEDGE EA started making profits on our recent signal account and working fine on a average profit more than 0.8% daily.

You may check it using below link


https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2264260

FOREXBOB

17 Oct, 15:14


FOREXBOB pinned Β«CROSS HEDGE EA https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018 CROSS Hedge EA like signal is available now, interested users may copy the signal or monitor the performance using below links. Mql5 and Myfxbook both are available. πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡ Live Stats Mql5…»

FOREXBOB

17 Oct, 15:12


CROSS HEDGE EA
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/93018

CROSS Hedge EA like signal is available now, interested users may copy the signal or monitor the performance using below links.
Mql5 and Myfxbook both are available.
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Live Stats Mql5 - Click Here

Live Stats Myfxbook - Click Here

FOREXBOB

14 Oct, 10:34


FOREXBOB pinned Β«MAYA is a triangular currency arbitrage system which trades 3 currencies together while EA loaded on single chart. Working consistently from past more than 1.5 years. PURCHASE HERE πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡ MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108…»

FOREXBOB

14 Oct, 10:28


FOREXBOB pinned Β«Please note !!! Due to migration in servers, our MT4 account history for MAYA EA and PYE EA going to lost... We are just able to take screenshot of the existing history for now for future references for new users in future. Soon we going to launch new…»

FOREXBOB

14 Oct, 10:27


Maya new MT4 account is published now previous account got disabled due to migration of server, you may monitor or copy trades from MAYA EA

FOREXBOB

14 Oct, 10:26


MAYA is a triangular currency arbitrage system which trades 3 currencies together while EA loaded on single chart.
Working consistently from past more than 1.5 years.


PURCHASE HERE
πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡
MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108

MAYA MT4 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99143

LIVE PERFORMANCE
πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡
MAYA MT4 OLD ACCOUNT
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/1900652

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4/10927667
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MAYA MT4 NEW ACCOUNT
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2261287

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mani24rajpura/maya-mt4-2/11145010
--------------------------------------------------------------------
MAYA MT5
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2191276

Myfxbook - https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/maya-mt5/10927757

MAYA promotional price is 200$,
target price is 1500$. So hurry up!!

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

28 Sep, 07:04


Guys who have used HFT profitably and those who have suggestions please contact personally.
Effective suggestions and we will be rewarded with free one unlimited liscence of mt4 or mt5.
If you have mt4 you will get mt5 for free or vice versa.

FOREXBOB

26 Sep, 07:11


Please note !!!

Due to migration in servers, our MT4 account history for MAYA EA and PYE EA going to lost...

We are just able to take screenshot of the existing history for now for future references for new users in future.

Soon we going to launch new signal on mql5 for references.
Stay Tuned....

We are also planning to launch signal with our amazing Cross Hedge EA..


Also stay tuned for next update with our always amazing HFT PROP EA 🀩

FOREXBOB

10 Sep, 14:09


Challenge passed for user on Manta trade server

FOREXBOB

10 Sep, 14:08


https://youtube.com/shorts/XS0EAe1hHPw?si=HJHczsMDDjoPjXb7

FOREXBOB

07 Sep, 14:48


MAYA is a triangular currency arbitrage system which trades 3 currencies together while EA loaded on single chart.
Working consistently from last 17 months.


PURCHASE HERE
πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡
MAYA MT5 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99108

MAYA MT4 PURCHASE LINK
https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/99143

LIVE PERFORMANCE
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MAYA MT4
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/1900652

MAYA MT5
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/2191276

MAYA promotional price is 200$,
target price is 1500$. So hurry up!!

@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

04 Sep, 04:43


🚨BREAKING : Bloodbath in US stock market and Crypto market also. Over $1.05 trillion was wiped out from the US stock market.

FOREXBOB

03 Sep, 14:01


Algo forex funds 50k account passed using HFT PROP EA MT4


@forexbob_support

FOREXBOB

02 Sep, 13:35


Today volume is very low in market

FOREXBOB

01 Sep, 07:03


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